Should illegals get jobs created by stimulus package?
Should provision of status remained in final piece of legislation?
Does this still not leave American workers unemployed?
Illegal Immigrants Will Get Stimulus Jobs
Saturday, April 25, 2009 at 11:15PM
By Brad O’Leary
One big beneficiary of President Obama’s stimulus bill will be illegal immigrants. It’s estimated that tens of thousands of jobs created by the economic stimulus plan would be filled by illegal immigrants, particularly in California and Texas, where illegal immigrants make up a large portion of the construction industry.
Studies predict illegal immigrants living and working in the U.S. could take up to 300,000 construction specific jobs, or 15 percent of the two million jobs the new taxpayer-financed bill will create.
The House version of the $787 billion stimulus package originally required anyone who would receive employment benefits to have their legal residency verified. However, that provision was removed from the final piece of legislation.
According to Steve Camarota, Director of Research for the Center for Immigration Studies, the resident verification condition was deleted by Democrat leaders of Congress before the bill ever made it to committee. Specifically, the condition that was removed would have required the identities of those individuals seeking employment benefits from the stimulus package to be vetted through an internet based E-Verifying system. This system is a quick way to reference eligibility from the Department of Homeland Security and the Social Security Administration.
“E-Verify is our most effective tool for preventing illegal immigrants from getting jobs, and they chose not to use it,” said Camarota
my husband is a construction worker, he is an ironworker, he works 10-12 hours a day, 7 days a week at times, in all weatther, I do know what I am talking about!!
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fuck no
they need to go back to were they are from
we DONT want them
As long as the government doesn’t enforce the laws, they will, so there is no use complaining, unless you are up for an armed rebellion
Easy answer. NO they are illegal. They are breaking the law because no proper documentation to be in this country.
it seems like obama was a mistake. if he loves illegals so much then he needs to foot the bill and give them jobs.
Hellooooo - anybody with a brain in there? Illegals spend their money HERE, for cripes sakes - the more money in the pipe, the better off the economy will be.
Don’t gimme this shlt about them sending all their money out of the country - they still gotta eat while they’re here and pay rent, utilities, taxes…they can’t do that and send all their money elsewhere.
American citizens will always come last under this administration
So let’s get this straight.
If someone illegally breaks into my home, but cooks me a damn good breakfast, am i morally obligated to keep providing him or her shelter?
No.
But that’s what we get when our elected representatives in Congress do not take the time to read a bill before signing it into law. It’s time to vote the bums out of office. Where do these idiots come from?
We need to start demanding from our government employees to implement E-verify in the job market, and social services now. No more bullsh*t about more studies needed. It works, Obama needs to put up or shut up, isn’t he the one who said that our government needs to be held accountable for their actions, and inaction’s? It’s time for us to start calling for some heads.
Edit: Ali A, well said!
Geasy, su madre viste botos combate.
No. Legal residents and citizens are being laid off left and right. This is wrong. Illegals should not benefit from the stimulus and they should not have taken off that clause in the legislation–that job seekers must produce their residency.
Actually, the opinion posted in the question is late–the original event was in March. I went and checked on it and actually only about 15% of construction jobs are held by illegals. So it is not as serious as the article in this question puts it. But they took out the use of an electronic system that would allow employers to check to see if the person was illegal or not. This can be done but probably the employers didn’t want it so that they could still hire illegals for cheaper wages.
Also much of their money does go back to their country. Many illegal men working in construction, live 10 people in a room. They do not have a big rent to pay since it is split among them.
This is a big mistake. This is going to come back and haunt us as a nation. Our factories have been shipped over to Mexico and China, our telecommunications outsourced to India–all the lower wage jobs are being given to illegal immigrants. What is left for legal residents and citizens? Only 15% of the USA population has a college degree. Everyone cannot be a professional. Corporations have laid off thousands of people. Who is going to hire Americans?
So since it might help illegal immigrants…we should keep our economy in a recession?!?
If we are to rapidly inject money to jump start the economy. Everyone will get benefits, legal or otherwise. Methods that would be more careful mean that everyone who is already following the law will be stuck in a bad economy longer then necessary. Regardless of where you stand on immgration, if your choices are fixing the economy first or curtailing illegal immigration first, i’m sure you would want the economy fixed before moving on to other issues.
Billy M. wrote:”Hellooooo - anybody with a brain in there? Illegals spend their money HERE, for cripes sakes - the more money in the pipe, the better off the economy will be.
Don’t gimme this shlt about them sending all their money out of the country - they still gotta eat while they’re here and pay rent, utilities, taxes…they can’t do that and send all their money elsewhere.”
Let’s see now…room with a dozen other guys and split the rent and utilities 12 ways. Don’t pay taxes because you commit fraud to claim exemptions (under a stolen or fraudulent SS number) OR get paid under the table. Don’t earn enough to have much money left after sending remittances home–a result of depressing not only your wages but those of the Americans who work other low wage jobs. In the meantime, the U.S. taxpayer is not only providing the stimulus money to pay for the job YOU have, but also providing the unemployment and welfare payments for Americans who are STILL out of work because YOU have the jobs they should have. Americans who have mortgages to pay, who can’t buy cars or send their kids to college because YOU are driving down wages and taking the jobs that could tide Americans over until the economy gets better.
No, They should get a free ride to jail.
AGAIN! the stimulus bill will create jobs, but not specifically for illegal immigrants. If these jobs do go to the illegal immigrants, especially with all these rumors you spread, that just tells us that the Americans didn’t work hard enough to win these jobs over. Lou Dobbs and Fox are really running with this falsehood, so there’s nothing to worry about….unless Americans sit around and don’t win these jobs over.
Will Dobbs retract his stimulus bill falsehood?
Summary: Lou Dobbs falsely claimed that the economic recovery bill, which the House recently passed, “would allow people who don’t have Social Security numbers to be eligible” for the bill’s Making Work Pay tax credits and would therefore make undocumented immigrants “eligible for checks.” In fact, illegal immigrants without Social Security numbers are not eligible for tax credits under the stimulus bill.
AP’s retracted stimulus bill falsehood finds a new home at Fox
Summary: On Fox News, Carl Cameron and Laura Ingraham repeated or uncritically reported the false Republican claim — originating in an AP article — that, in Cameron’s words, the economic stimulus bill would allow “illegal aliens” to claim “tax credits of $500 per person or 1,000 per couple.” Cameron and Ingraham advanced the falsehood even after a revised version of the AP article made clear that the bill excludes undocumented immigrants.
A person is a person, am i not wrong? Why is an american person who sits on their fat a** all day more worthy than an illegal immigrant who is hard working, trying to pay to support their family???
Because i don’t think they are. This is not a simple, their illegal immigrants, oh how bad they are. They buy stuff with their money, they also help to rejuvinate an area as much as the legal people do.
But how on earth would you be able to introduce a package that does not let illegal immigrants work, but allows legal citizens to work? Obama is not a god, he cannot just make this stuff happen.
Why is it that so many people think control of the economy is so easy??? WHy do so many people not blame Bush for all this mess? why is Obama getting so much flak, why do the republicans want him and the economy to fail?
I sent my whole lot a pigs down to the border and let them run wild. Pigs will attack anything when they are hungry. Nothing is gonna stop 400 medium size pigs from chasin down those illegals and feeding on em.
No, no, no, and no!
They are here illegally and they should be deported. Whether they contribute to the economy or not does not justify breaking legitimate immigration laws.
If the economy collapse then that is our problem and not Mexico’s or the rest of the world.
Illegal immigration is a crime and brings in lawlessness into this country whether you admit it or not. We have domestic crimes as it is and we just do not need more.
I’m with Tom on this one. If Americans bothered to get off their oversized tushes to apply for the jobs in construction, then they’d get them. Employers much prefer to have English-speaking, fully legal workers.
People here habitually complain about groups of Mexicans standing around looking for work; it’s a habit that American-born workers would do well to cultivate.
The stimulus package that would most stimulate the 5,000,000 long-term unemployed/unemployable in the US is a boot up the tin pan alley.
Absolutely not - but didn’t you hear Robert Reich testify during this saying that we don’t want the jobs created by the stimulus going to white males?
More affirmative action for useless minorities.
they do pay their yearly taxes… why not? …
Who else is going to get the jobs?
I’m being logical, I don’t think an average American would want to pick up a shovel in the Hot of the Day and work for 12 hours and get paid minimum wage or a little bit more.
Think before you speak, and please don’t speak against people whose experience you ha vent been through before.